Review: Jurassic World: Rebirth

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Hello, everyone. [00:00:01] Speaker B: This is Logan Sowash, and I'm Andy. [00:00:03] Speaker A: Carr, and this is our first quickie of the year. [00:00:06] Speaker B: It's been a minute. [00:00:07] Speaker A: It's been a minute. And to be honest, I mean, we're making this a quickie because. To be honest, we. I said that twice. Good Lord. We just got out of the movie theater, of course. And we're making this a quickie because we're expecting in the next, like, three to four years, probably just doing this as a full trilogy. At a certain point, we might not even talk about the next few films if it becomes a trilogy, because today is our first Jurassic park franchise film since Dominion, which, if you've been following us for a while, thank you so much. But if you have, you know, we have done the original Jurassic park sequels as well as the Jurassic World trilogy. [00:00:49] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:00:50] Speaker B: Those who survived Jurassic June, we salute you. [00:00:54] Speaker A: Yeah, I forgot it was Jurassic June, but. And those who would remember that when we talked about Dominion, we both thought it was one of the worst films to come out that year. I think it was your least favorite film of the year. But Dominion, to surprise of nobody, considering it was using the hype nostalgia train of Dern Neil and Goldblum. Goldblum coming back, it made a billion dollars. So in an era where studios are literally trying to make for the longest time, a Bond list film, a Indiana Jones list series, it was no surprise. At a certain point, Universal was gonna be like, gosh, I don't know if anyone's gonna be okay with a Chris Pratt and Bryce Dallas Howard less Jurassic World film. And then when they finished that sentence, they went, yeah, they'll be fine. [00:01:47] Speaker B: They'll be fine. [00:01:48] Speaker A: So because of that, a decade after Jurassic World originally came out in 2015, we now have our seventh film in the Jurassic park franc, our fourth Jurassic World film. [00:02:00] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:02:01] Speaker A: Probably the start of a new trilogy, which is called Jurassic World Rebirth, starring Scarlett Johansson, Marshall Ali, Jonathan Bailey, a cute dinosaur named Dolores who steals the show and was my favorite part of the movie. But that's just an easy. That's an easy win. [00:02:18] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:02:19] Speaker B: And Ed Skrying, which, if you didn't know he was in this, nobody could blame you. [00:02:23] Speaker A: None of us did. The funniest part is both Andy and I were like, why are you here? And Adam, who is, of course, a friend of the podcast and one of our best friends who's been on plenty of times, he went, who? [00:02:35] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:02:36] Speaker A: And it's like, oh, Ajax from Deadpool. You don't. You haven't got that far. In Game of Thrones. He's in Game of Thrones first season. [00:02:43] Speaker B: Then he gets replaced. [00:02:44] Speaker A: He does get replaced because he's working on, I believe, Deadpool. Yeah, yeah, he's doing. And this film pretty much kind of felt like it was coming out of the blue in a way that like, I mean, I don't know how you really introduce to people that you're just gonna keep making Jurassic films without cause. World Dominion, even though it's a dog shit movie, pretty much has the feeling of like this is the finality of both the park trio as well as the world crew. [00:03:19] Speaker B: Yeah, it's kind of. You're pulling out all the stops. Cause you're bringing back the olds. You've got all the news there. The world's lied. It kind of feels like your. Your end game moment for the franchise. Although with much less fanfare. [00:03:33] Speaker A: They bring back the T. Rex again from the original trilogy and they have a time to shine. And going into this, I mean, yeah, like we said before, I mean, we were not fans of Dominion in any way, shape or form. And so going into this we were just kind of hoping, like, if anything, again, we will talk about spoilers at the very end of this, like a speed round thing. But as of right now, we're just going to be like general impressions. Yeah. Jurassic World Rebirth, in my opinion is fine. [00:04:06] Speaker B: Yeah, it's fun. [00:04:07] Speaker A: It's fun. It's fine. You know, exactly what they're trying to. The thing is, I think the first time in a while that you can sit there and you can see the algorithm in terms of how this movie was made foundationally and it doesn't, you know, make me pop a blood vessel in my brain. [00:04:25] Speaker B: Yeah, it makes the most sense. It's still like very playing safe. Kind of like the original Jurassic World. But yeah, it's not as mind numbingly mathematical with like, oh, we have to have a big star here and a cute couple there and a blah, blah, blah. You know, it's like it feels a little bit more like, well, you know, we know which movies in this franchise work and which ones people actually like. Let's maybe just kind of like rehash those and that could be worse, you know, like, you know, there are moments in this movie that feel pretty classic. Jurassic Park. [00:05:07] Speaker A: One moment in particular that Adam told us was an original idea for the first film. [00:05:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:13] Speaker A: And got cut and was basically kind of reintegrated and kind of remixed in a sense for this film, which we won't spoil. But it's, I think probably the best action sequence in the movie. [00:05:24] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:05:25] Speaker B: It's a aquatic kind of a in and out of the water sequence with the T Rex. [00:05:31] Speaker A: Because David Koepp, who writes the script, also wrote the original script, I believe. [00:05:36] Speaker B: I think so, yeah. [00:05:36] Speaker A: He's one of the. One of the OGs, one of the last OG people, I think, involved in the series in terms of like. I mean, Spielberg is an executive producer. [00:05:44] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:05:45] Speaker B: But like, I think he has been on all of them. [00:05:47] Speaker A: I think he has. Yeah. Which to be honest, why wouldn't you be? [00:05:50] Speaker B: Right. [00:05:50] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:05:51] Speaker A: The series doesn't exist without him. And he literally is just like, yeah, this looks fine. He's probably like, he's watching Jaws and Rebirth dailies at the same time, being like, this looks okay. But yeah. You have an actress who has been in some of the highest grossing films of all time, who is a good actress who can be in independence in films, but is clearly shown that she can sell tickets on her own in big budget films. You have an actor in Marshalla Ali who has won an Oscar, who is beloved for his talent and is a man who has literally been in MCU hell longer than any other person's been in MCU hell trying to get a blade film off the ground. And then you have Jonathan Bailey, who is definitely, of the three of them, the young buck, but very popular because of Bridgerton. [00:06:41] Speaker B: Off the heels of Bridgerton. And Wicked. [00:06:43] Speaker A: Wicked, for sure. He is Fiero. [00:06:46] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:06:47] Speaker A: Trying to remember his name. He's don't. That's, that's, that's actually. That's an actual spoiler. [00:06:53] Speaker B: Not for this movie. [00:06:54] Speaker A: No. That caught me off guard so much. But yes, you have three actors who are basically like, honestly, when I saw the first trailer, I went. I do like all three of them. [00:07:09] Speaker B: Sure. [00:07:09] Speaker A: And then you also have his name. Escapes me, but he's an actor who's been around for a while. He was actually in Antoine Fuqua's the Magnificent Seven. [00:07:18] Speaker B: Ray H. Right. [00:07:20] Speaker A: He's been, I think currently running on the Netflix Lincoln Lawyer series as the lead. Yeah, he's been jumping in and out of other series. He's a really good actor as well. [00:07:30] Speaker B: The dad. [00:07:30] Speaker A: The dad, yeah, the dad. He has a face like an otter. [00:07:34] Speaker B: Yeah, he does. [00:07:35] Speaker A: He's an otter. And I don't mean that in a otter esque, not in a derogatory way. It just has that energy, especially in this movie. [00:07:42] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:07:43] Speaker B: Manuel Garcia Rofa. [00:07:45] Speaker A: I believe so. Yes. [00:07:46] Speaker B: Sounds right. [00:07:48] Speaker A: He's also an actor where it's like, oh, cool. He's in this and he's. And he is the. I say the emotional through line is his aspect of the plot because it's basically. It's kind of like what the Grant stuff is in the original film where it's like the emotional family aspect. Because to be honest, this film is a Rebirth is about a straightforward. Of a Jurassic park film that we've ever gotten. I think post the first one, maybe since Lost Worlds. [00:08:19] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah, maybe. [00:08:20] Speaker A: Well, even actually, I mean, three is. [00:08:23] Speaker B: Pretty straight, like, classic. [00:08:25] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:08:25] Speaker A: So we haven't had a film in the Jurassic franchise this straightforward in 20 years. [00:08:30] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:08:30] Speaker A: And this film is basically just Scarlett Johansson, Marshall Ali, Jonathan Bailey and Rupert Friend, who's in a bunch of other things. An actor that I really like, but he hasn't had, like, that. This is the role that really pumps him up. [00:08:44] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:08:45] Speaker A: But, like, he's a good. He plays a good asshole. He's very funny. He's a good actor. [00:08:50] Speaker B: The corporate presence in this. [00:08:52] Speaker A: Yes. He basically is like, I need you three to go get some dino DNA at this random island that is not any of the dino islands we've talked about in the other films. It's five years after the end of Dominion. [00:09:07] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:09:07] Speaker A: And it basically is like, if you get these. You get this dino DNA from these three specific dinos. This. This pharmaceutical company I work for will pay you a fortune. [00:09:17] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:09:17] Speaker B: Because they. They want the DNA to potentially make various pharmaceutical medical advancements. [00:09:25] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:09:25] Speaker A: Specifically heart disease. [00:09:27] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:09:28] Speaker B: They. They're gonna extract tissue from the. Or blood samples from the largest species of each category, flying, aquatic and land animal, because they have the largest hearts, therefore the strongest muscle. Heart muscle. I think so. [00:09:50] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:09:50] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:09:51] Speaker A: Well, the thing again is weird when the film kind of introduces this idea because it's very early on, because again. [00:09:58] Speaker B: Another thing that they get right to it. [00:10:00] Speaker A: Yeah. This movie pretty much makes it clear that while Dominion, Jurassic World and even Fallen Kingdom to an extent, have made Almost a collective $3 billion at the box office, the critiques were heard. And I think one of the biggest critique, especially from Dominion, is that Dominion is convoluted. It takes too long to get into the plot. And when you do get into the plot, it really is. Neither plot is actually that interesting. [00:10:27] Speaker B: And we're more focused on locusts than dinosaurs. Yes. [00:10:31] Speaker A: And every. And it's the worst part where it's like, you don't care about the Owen Claire aspect because it's just. It's throwing all this, like, post Fallen Kingdom, like, there is a dinosaur fight. Club. They're in, like, this place. They have to do a motorcycle attack and they have to save the. Save Blue's kid. [00:10:49] Speaker B: Right. [00:10:50] Speaker A: And then they use the old crew to introduce the locusts of it all. And it's like, I don't give a fuck about the locusts. And then Rebirth is basically. You've never met these people before. That doesn't matter. This person's a mercenary. This person can get you anywhere. And this person is a scientist, a paleontologist, and I'm a pharmaceutical exec. And I need you all to use your teamwork synergy. Get my things. And then literally, when they get to the paleontologist in the play by Bailey, he basically just spells out what they need with. And the way they do it is very visual, very easy to understand. And I went in the theater. Thank fuck. We're just. We're not. We're not beating around the bush. [00:11:33] Speaker B: Yeah. We're just getting right to it. The only time it does feel breakneck. [00:11:36] Speaker A: But I will take it. I will take it after Dominion. [00:11:40] Speaker C: Yeah. Well. [00:11:40] Speaker B: And I mean, especially that first act feels breakneck. Just like. Yeah, we got to sprint through this to get to the dinosaurs. [00:11:48] Speaker A: Well, because I'll give world credit. I mean, when Owen and Claire get introduced, they are introduced in their environments. [00:11:54] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:11:54] Speaker A: So you what the dynamic is going to be by the time they meet up, where one is very sleek, emotionless and corporate, and the other one is a drag trainer. [00:12:05] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:12:05] Speaker A: Dirty, cringy. And then you get to. With Rebirth, you don't meet Scarlett Johansson in her environment. She just kind of pops out of nowhere. [00:12:16] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:12:16] Speaker A: She almost feels like she teleports into the plot. You meet Marisala and Jonathan Bailey and they're in their habitats. But, like, emotionally, you know what Bailey's whole emotional thing is going to be, which is being a paleontologist and seeing dinosaurs in their natural habitat. [00:12:34] Speaker B: No greater opportunity for somebody like him. [00:12:37] Speaker A: Yeah. Which has the most. The biggest emotional moment of the three actors comes from him. [00:12:42] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:12:42] Speaker B: With the big, like the middle of the movie. [00:12:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:45] Speaker B: Which comes the classic the awestruck. [00:12:50] Speaker A: We need to pay John Williams this much money for this amount of time. He's in his classic theme. [00:12:55] Speaker B: And that scene is pretty good. I enjoyed that scene. [00:12:57] Speaker A: Yeah. I had really enjoyed that time. I really enjoyed that scene. [00:13:01] Speaker B: It has been a long time since a Jurassic movie made me feel awe at dinosaurs like that scene did. So I appreciated that. [00:13:10] Speaker A: Yeah. And also, even though it does feel like it's very different from Alexander deplot's score, of the movie because his score is very dark, almost kind of operatic and tragic at times because they're on an island full of defects, mutants, horrible things. [00:13:28] Speaker B: Such melodramatic in places. [00:13:30] Speaker A: It is. It is absolutely melodramatic in places. But this, you. You're not really attached to these characters fully, like. [00:13:39] Speaker B: Yeah, very much. I wouldn't say I was ever emotionally invested, but it's like the characters are simple and archetypal enough and kind of stay out of their own way, you know? It's like we don't get a shit ton of backstory that we don't care about that's poorly acted and poorly written. It's kind of like they try and give you, like, the bare minimum to spark some sense of sympathy and empathy, and it might click with you, it might not, but it doesn't really matter because the movie moves at such a quick clip that it's like, okay, we're on to the next set piece. Onto the next set piece. And it's fun, even if it's not, like, super gripping. [00:14:18] Speaker A: Yeah, very much. There's even a character in the movie that I mean. And you'll know exactly who I'm talking about where it's just like, he. As soon as he shows up, he's unbearable. I want him to get eaten immediately. It takes him six to seven scenes to fully be like, I kind of like this guy. And by the time the movie gets to a point where it's like, you know what? I don't know if I really want him to get eaten. So maybe I'm kind of okay if he makes it. And it's like, it took a while to get to that point. [00:14:44] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:14:44] Speaker A: Because on the other side of things, it's like, there's this energy of, like, you can kind of tell of the main three actors who would possibly die. [00:14:52] Speaker B: Sure. [00:14:53] Speaker A: In the beginning. And they don't hide it. [00:14:56] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:14:57] Speaker A: Because it's the. Because this has this energy, which I think could be an actual flaw. It's an actual flaw with this film. And it could be an issue going forward depending on how they develop and if they use the same characters. Because they literally could just be, like, three new actors. [00:15:12] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:15:12] Speaker A: Maybe we'll bring back this person who cares. But, like, there's, like, this emotional angle. [00:15:18] Speaker B: Dolores will be the carryover character. [00:15:21] Speaker A: I just want. I want so many Dolores. [00:15:23] Speaker B: It'll just be Dolores, like, stumbling her way into different human groups. [00:15:29] Speaker A: She basically was a mix between, like, a naked mole rat, a little bit of a lemur, and a Boston terrier. [00:15:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:15:38] Speaker A: She had, like, a pug snoring. And I was like. [00:15:41] Speaker B: And I. I think she's meant to be kind of like a triceratops type creature. [00:15:46] Speaker A: Like a mutant. Yeah. [00:15:48] Speaker B: I mean, yeah. Clearly not a real species of dinosaur, but has that kind of build. [00:15:53] Speaker A: She is to me. [00:15:54] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:15:55] Speaker B: Has the kind of build of, like, a triceratops type. [00:15:58] Speaker A: Yeah. She's fucking adorable. And I just look at her and go, how many toys have you sold already? Tell me in millions. Universal. Don't lie to me. [00:16:07] Speaker B: She takes a. Like, to the little girl character of. [00:16:11] Speaker A: Garcia's family because there's two daughters on his side of the family, and then the oldest daughter has a boyfriend, and. [00:16:17] Speaker B: The boyfriend's a stoner and an asshole and lazy. [00:16:20] Speaker A: He literally has one scene that is supposed to be, like, a funny bit. It's a very elaborate joke, and it was completely crickets in our theater. Like, it's very funny how our theater. The movie ended up that people actually clapped in our theater. And you know what? I'm glad people enjoyed it that much. But considering how so many jokes in the first act didn't feel like they left. I was like. [00:16:45] Speaker B: And it was like, not. [00:16:46] Speaker A: Do we like this? [00:16:47] Speaker B: It was not an empty theater. I mean, no. [00:16:48] Speaker A: We were pretty packed. [00:16:49] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:16:50] Speaker A: When I got us the tickets, I was like, fuck. Like, we either gonna be assholes and elbows or we have to be really to the side a little bit. And we were lucky to get some good seats. And in The Dolby, after 45 minutes of, you know, previews and one ad. [00:17:07] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:17:07] Speaker B: AMC is throwing, like, regular commercials in with their trailers now. [00:17:11] Speaker A: Single. [00:17:12] Speaker B: A single one, like, right in the middle. [00:17:14] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:17:14] Speaker A: But to be honest, though, it was all worth it just for Odyssey. Once I remembered that Nolan is now working for Universal, I went, oh, shit. They're definitely gonna put it in front of fucking Jurassic. [00:17:25] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:17:25] Speaker B: And they threw it after the pre rolls. Like, after the AMC pre rolls. And so you think, oh, the movie's starting. And then you get the, like, green. [00:17:33] Speaker A: That is such a power move, where it's like, what is the only person who could get a trailer after all the pre. After Kidman, after the guy that dances and drives in fast and furious. Like, all the shit that is like, oh, my God, no. Nolan can just be, like, one year from now. [00:17:50] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:17:51] Speaker A: You'll be right back in the seat. It's like, fuck, he's got me. [00:17:54] Speaker C: All right, fine. [00:17:55] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, it's. I think with most of the sequels to the original Jurassic park, it does have this Energy of, like, you start off the movie and you're like, okay. At best, you're like, this is fine. I'm having a decent amount of time. I see what they're kind of like, what little inklings they're putting. But when is the theme park gonna start? When I say this, I'm not meaning, like an actual. They're going to another Jurassic park theme park. It's more like the thrills. [00:18:23] Speaker B: The movie is kind of a theme park ride. [00:18:26] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:18:26] Speaker A: Because basically once. Because in the trailer, they have like a mosasaur spinosaurus scene. [00:18:31] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:18:32] Speaker A: That kind of from that point forward is just like, now we're in it. [00:18:35] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:18:36] Speaker A: And the most interesting stuff happens from that point forward. [00:18:39] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:18:39] Speaker B: And I think, honestly, that is kind of the best way to like, complement this movie in an, you know, adequate way. That it is kind of like an amusement park ride. Like, it's. There's not really anything to grab on to that's super interesting in the story or the characters. But, like, you know what? It gives you a pretty decent dinosaur spectacle. And there's a good variety, too. I mean, the. The prem itself kind of is well built in the sense that it's like, okay, we gotta go after an aquatic dinosaur and a land dinosaur and an air dinosaur. It's like, okay, so we're going to be all over the place. A lot of verticality, a lot of variety in the scenery. [00:19:21] Speaker A: And we have to be in a boat just to get to the island. So clearly we start with the sea. Where do we go from there? And then when we get to the island, there's an A plot and a B plot that are pretty succinct, straightforward. And both have their own types of thrills that don't feel like you're getting the same thing over and over again. And the dinos are also. Surprisingly, they don't. Which is a different thing for the Jurassic World series is that they're not constantly relying on the ones that you are aware of. [00:19:48] Speaker B: Right, right. [00:19:49] Speaker A: They do have nods to the classics. But the ones that really are the kind of prominent ones are the newer kind of mutant, upgraded or evol, kind of different versions of what we've seen in the past. [00:20:05] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:20:05] Speaker A: Like, the Spinosaurus is a little bit different than what we've seen. [00:20:09] Speaker B: Well, you see it in a different environment. I mean, because in the. In, like, Jurassic 3, which was most prominently featured as Spinosaurus, it was in. [00:20:18] Speaker A: The jungle eating cell phones. [00:20:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:20:21] Speaker B: And then in this one, you see it almost entirely in the water. And that's Pretty cool because, you know, they were very aquatic creatures. [00:20:28] Speaker A: And then the mosasaur is a fun little moment. Cuz you get. You get something you didn't. I don't think you get in the original three world films, which is like just a shot where he's just close enough to the surface of the water. You can see his face. Yeah, it's like that is. [00:20:43] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:20:43] Speaker B: They get a little Jaws with it. And like, that's fun because the director. [00:20:48] Speaker A: Is Gareth Edwards, who most people would know from like Rogue One. Rogue One, Godzilla. If you saw the creator. Good for you. That's still on my. [00:20:57] Speaker B: I did. I did pick me. [00:20:58] Speaker A: You did. You did. You did. And I remember you being like. Every time our friend Austin of the pod would just talk about, you'd be like, yeah, but it's still. You'd be like, ew. I mean, but he is a very visual director who has clearly got a lot of experience with visual effects in a sense that going. I mean, I think one of the things that really kind of piqued my interest when I saw the trailers for this is that the dinos do feel and look different in this than the other world films. [00:21:31] Speaker B: Yeah, there's a crisper. Yeah, there's crispness. They look a little more meaty. Yeah. And a little, just like scarier. Just a little like edgier. I don't know how to put that. Exactly. [00:21:42] Speaker A: I mean, the way that this movie gets into its logo is probably the. The nastiest. It's probably the nastiest way they've gotten into a logo in a while. Like, in terms of like, you know, I think the closest they would have gotten to something like that is like in the first film where they do like the shoot her. [00:21:58] Speaker C: Right. [00:21:58] Speaker A: Has like kind of that energy and it goes into like Jurassic World Rebirth. And it's like, oh, wow. Okay. Yeah, it's a little nasty. I like that. [00:22:07] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:22:07] Speaker A: It's also just compared to the other three films where it feels like it's constantly trying to, you know, put a little seedling here and there of like this is what Dr. Wu, what he's talking about here. Maybe it'll come back later. [00:22:22] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:22:23] Speaker A: Or like the Indominus Rex. What if. Maybe they'll play with that a little bit more in the future. What a Jurassic World. What if the dinos get out? It's like, like that. And then like with Rebirth, it's like if there's anything there that is like trying to be like, oh, I wonder if two will talk about. [00:22:38] Speaker B: Right. It's not really worried about setting up. [00:22:41] Speaker A: It doesn't. [00:22:41] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:22:42] Speaker A: And you know what? That's fine. [00:22:43] Speaker B: I think it's probably better for it. Yeah. Because to me, it didn't make me want to see another one, but it also didn't make me, like, want to kill myself. [00:22:53] Speaker A: See the. Because the three things are like kind of, you know, listed early on in the episode, like, of this quickie. Like the Bond. Like the Bondless, you know, Bond film, basically, where they take Lashana Lynch's character from no Time to Die and they're. [00:23:08] Speaker B: Like, let me give her a movie spin off syndrome. [00:23:10] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:23:10] Speaker A: And Phillips, Phoebe Waller Bridges, you know, maybe she'll get her own series. And now they're literally talking about rebooting Indiana Jones at this point. But, like, of all the options of, like, if we have. If we have a gun to our head and we have to be forced to have this franchise, like a. Every two to three years, another one of these movies. Even with Dominion being absolute dog shit, I'm still like, fuck it, I'll get dinos. Try it out. Try something different. Or if you just want to be as straightforward as Rebirth, like, yeah, just be fun. And it is like, it's. [00:23:47] Speaker B: I mean, no other. We don't really have a lot of other franchises that are putting, like, dinosaurs on the screen. No spectacle. Like, that's, that's, you know, this movie's biggest selling point is like, okay, there's some pretty good dino stuff in here. [00:24:01] Speaker A: There's some good dino stuff in here. And it feels like where it needs to end. It ends. [00:24:06] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:24:06] Speaker A: And it really plays with like the. The prominent dinosaur that is the one that had been hiding the most in the ads. But they have clearly been showing the way that dino is introduced and reintroduced into the plot, I think is perfect in terms of just the amount you've seen. It's like, oh, yeah, of course. [00:24:25] Speaker B: You don't overdo it like they do with Indominus Rex. [00:24:28] Speaker A: No wonder this guy directed the original Godzilla for Legend, like the legendary's Godzilla, because it's just like the scale, the feeling, the energy, it has all the sauce there to make a fun, entertaining film. That's a solid three out of five, to be honest. Again, it's just funny to think after. Again, after no Time to Die, I'm like, we don't need Bond for a while. I'm fine with not having Bond for a bit, to be honest. All the conversations of who could be. [00:25:01] Speaker B: Bond, I'm like, I don't give a shit. [00:25:03] Speaker A: Don't Talk to me about that. I don't care. [00:25:06] Speaker B: You're making me sick. [00:25:06] Speaker A: All the choices you made are pretty cold. [00:25:09] Speaker B: Stop talking. [00:25:10] Speaker A: And then like, you know, with the. [00:25:11] Speaker B: Whole, think about what you've done. [00:25:12] Speaker A: Yeah, The Indiana Jones of it all, where it's like, let Troy Baker do another game or two before you decide you want to reboot it with somebody. And then it's like, with this, it's just like. Yeah, it very much is. If you're gonna make a trilogy that might just be. This could be a trilogy that if they really want to flesh out Johansson, like, if they want to flesh out these characters in the future, like they could. Because there's literally everything that is in this movie. It's a genuine flaw with this movie. The stuff that's with Johansson, the stuff with Ali. Both of them are pretty. They are as barebones as possible. They both get basically a trauma dump to one another about what's been going on between the two of them. And in the scene that happens, you see two actors who have literally. I mean, Scarlett Johansson has captivated and made people fall in love with her when she was just a AI's V&Maha Shah Ali won a fucking Oscar for a film that arguably didn't deserve an Oscar, but he is genuinely phenomenal in that movie. You have two actors who are acting their asses off with so little content and it's like you can give them so much more. And even Bailey, Bailey is definitely the best of the three because literally as soon as he shows up on screen, he's just like, oh, you are so in. You were just like, the way you're touching your glasses, the way you're talking about these dinos. Like, you're clearly a fan. [00:26:40] Speaker B: He kind of gets the cartoon of it. Like, oh, I'm here to play a like capital C character. Like, not somebody super deep, like somebody you can quickly understand and has their gimmicks and their, their ways about them. And yeah, Scarlett Johansson's character and Mahershali are both. They're kind of the same ilk. They're kind of like the, oh, I'm the hard bitten mercenary, but I'm the smart. I have feelings. [00:27:11] Speaker A: Yes. Deep down I really should have probably taken a holiday between my last mission and this. And it's funny too how the movie basically is like the reason why our three actors are going on this. Like these three characters are going on this journey is entirely money, finance, like, finance, like oriented. And it's like, it makes sense. [00:27:30] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:27:31] Speaker A: Monetarily, it like, of course, especially with the Doctor. The Doctor is the one where you feel like, would that work for that character? And it's like in this world they make this really interesting idea of the fact that like, since dinosaurs are more well known and are now everywhere since. [00:27:48] Speaker B: They were brought back. [00:27:49] Speaker A: Yeah, paleontology is fucking boring to kids. [00:27:52] Speaker B: Because nobody cares anymore because they see. [00:27:54] Speaker A: Dinos every day in a way and. [00:27:55] Speaker B: Go to the park and see live dinosaurs. [00:27:57] Speaker A: And so they're like, well, do you want some money to just, you know, maybe not love dinos in your nice condo with the gold plated everything? Or do you want to help, you know, build. [00:28:08] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:28:09] Speaker A: Your division? And it's like that, that works. Everything here has the, the inklings of like, yeah, this is, it's solid, but it doesn't really build more. [00:28:19] Speaker B: Except for the set pieces. [00:28:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:28:21] Speaker B: Which like, I'm sure we will get more. And for that reason, it's kind of of odd that they didn't set more up. But like, as far as this movie taken by itself, I was kind of glad that I didn't feel like I was stepping into chapter one of another inane, stupid fucking trilogy. You're rewinding just a, just a hair to the money thing that you brought up. I did think it was kind of funny with Scarjo's character, the money thing, because they say the figure is 10 with six zeros behind it. So that'd be what, 10 million, right? I think so, yeah. And that's just kind of funny to think because I bet you ScarJo made like @ least triple that. And it's just funny to think like, you know, that that's dropped as like this. Oh, you can't not do this. This is a life changing, you know, I mean, it is a life changing amount of money, of course, to any normal person, but like, this is Black Widow. It's funny that that is like the giant mic drop number that they give and it's like, oh, that's like a mediocre salary for a. A list actor. [00:29:31] Speaker A: This is literally the woman that apparently told Florence Pugh at one point, you will never be this young again. Work as hard as you want to get all the money you would like to do. Work the big budget stuff and then if you want to work the small projects later. [00:29:44] Speaker C: Right. [00:29:45] Speaker A: Do it. And here's ScarJo back in a franchise and she literally is just like, like she's just doing the usual. She's just doing her thing. It doesn't hit well early on because it is like you're not. They're not giving you much. [00:29:59] Speaker B: It's also weird because she's, like, playing super cute with it. [00:30:03] Speaker A: She's very cute, very silly. [00:30:05] Speaker B: Out of the three of them, like, grinning ear to ear constantly. And it's like, what I feel like what you need is a little more like, sardinism, like, some cynicism, but you're just grinning all the time and smiling and being silly. And it's like, this is odd coming. [00:30:20] Speaker A: And then there's also the scene. [00:30:21] Speaker B: There's a random. [00:30:22] Speaker A: There's a scene in the first act of the film where she is sitting outside on the boat alone. And there's this haunting shot of her crying by her tears in her eyes. [00:30:32] Speaker B: Staring off into the night. [00:30:33] Speaker A: And then when Bailey shows up, it's just like, oh, what's up, ptsd? [00:30:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:30:37] Speaker B: And I'm like, we move on. [00:30:39] Speaker A: I'm like, okay. Like, I understand that this is the first time we're seeing these characters, and you don't want them to constantly be like, yeah, I'm really bummed out, and I can't sleep because I've had traumatic experiences. So they have the one scene where they're really cool and chill, talking about PTSD and the things they've lost. And Marshall. Ali's part of it is just like, yeah, I've got my own trial, and it's about losing a son. Okay, we're gonna settle down on this point. Yeah. And then from that point forward, it's just basically like. Like, their whole performances, you can clearly tell that they're going with that as their driving force. But then even so, it makes it even more obvious when it comes to Garcia's family, because basically it goes like, okay, Johansson lost somebody in the field. She doesn't want to lose another person in the field, especially in, like, civilians. [00:31:29] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:31:29] Speaker A: She really wants to get children. Then Ali's being like, I had a kid once. It's like his face is constantly saying, I had a kid. [00:31:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:31:37] Speaker A: It's like, I know, man. It's sad, but what are we doing with you? And then Bailey is just. Every time he talks, he even has the big, I think, monologue about survival. And it's in the trailer. [00:31:52] Speaker B: Right, right, right. [00:31:53] Speaker A: It's like, it just. Nothing about him screams pompous. Everything about him screams. He's a little weirdo that likes dinosaurs, and that makes him so likable. [00:32:03] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:32:04] Speaker A: And it's great to see Bailey be with actors like Johansson and Ali and just be like, it's not like he probably was intimidated when he was on set. But it's so much fun to watch him play. I mean, all the behind the scenes stuff too. He just has a kid in a candy store energy when he talks about this stuff. So he, I think really just builds into the character to the point where it's like every time he's on screen, I'm like, I'm having a fun time. Yeah. So if, literally, if the next film they're just like, you know what? Ali and Johansson are too expensive. But we're keeping Bailey. I'm like, you know what? That's fine. [00:32:39] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:32:40] Speaker A: Basically do Lost World. [00:32:41] Speaker B: Again, Do a John. [00:32:42] Speaker A: Do a. Do a Loomis. Lost World. [00:32:45] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:32:46] Speaker A: Because Bailey's character is named Dr. Loomis. [00:32:48] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:32:48] Speaker A: But again, I will give credit at a certain point I went, okay, the characters names are zora, Duncan and Dr. Loomis. That's. That's better than I think if I just didn't know anybody. Then again, I also know Claire and Owen. That doesn't mean anything. [00:33:03] Speaker B: Right. [00:33:03] Speaker A: So it's like, it just like this is a film that really hilariously, in most cases, hitting the bare minimum wouldn't be enough. But after having the last two Jurassic World films be absolute schlock B movie shit that I love, but I'm also well aware that doesn't make it good. It looks good in. The effects in that film are great, but it's still schlock. And then you have Dominion, which again clearly has the money for practical effects in that movie. And they're clearly pushing practical effects. That movie is still dog shit convoluted and basically goes, oh, by the way, I guess it's okay that dinos live with us. We'll make it work. Like, that's how that fucking movie ends. It's such the wettest fart. [00:33:49] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:33:49] Speaker A: And to go to Rebirth like it is the only the Jurassic franchise where we've had these last two films of just like two different opposites. That Rebirth is just smack dab in the middle. [00:33:59] Speaker B: Right? [00:34:00] Speaker A: It is even. We even said it when we were leaving out the theater. It is even less silly than the original Jurassic World. Like there's no Vincent d' Onofrio talking about raptors being used in Bora Bora. [00:34:12] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:34:13] Speaker B: There's no like, it's less like. It feels less like alternate universe world goes pretty hard into the like, oh, the world is like changed because of all these dinosaurs brought back. And this kind of like reigns it in a little bit more. [00:34:29] Speaker A: This film has like an air of the world is very Cynical about dinosaurs. And it almost feels like. Yeah, it makes sense. Like at one point the little girl goes like, I'm sick of dinosaurs. And I'm like, you know what if you're a child and you've kind of like spent like she's like 6 or 7. [00:34:45] Speaker B: It feels like dinosaturation. [00:34:47] Speaker A: Yeah. She's just basically like, I've lived my life, whole life being told about dinos, yet she still goes into the water. Madness. In my head, I'm like, at this point, if dinos are in the air, in this land, in the sea, I need to be on land. I don't need to be in the air and I don't need to be in the sea. They can have that. It is funny how the whole thing about Garcia's family getting involved is basically they're just doing a usual family trek to the I believe Barbados. [00:35:15] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:35:17] Speaker A: And it turns out I guess a bunch of spinosaurus just got real close, close to the shore than they should have. And it's very funny how they just like. Oh yeah. I guess these dinos decided to get way too close. [00:35:31] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:35:31] Speaker A: Get way too far away from their islands. And it really is just this franchise. It's like at this point. [00:35:38] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:35:38] Speaker A: A three out of five. Cool. Yeah. Fun. It's fun. And you know what? We will probably get a sequel because as of recording this, this movie is made and in the span of four to five days, 300 plus million dollars. Clearly it's probably going to get a sequel just because it's drastic. It's dinos, the money. What that sequel looks like, we'll be curious to see. But to be honest, I think neither one of us are going to be holding our breaths thinking of what the next film is going to be. [00:36:09] Speaker B: It simultaneously let me like, it was a little bit of a relief to go see a Jurassic movie that didn't fucking piss me off. But make you go, what the fuck? But at the same time it also isn't like, oh, hope restored. I'm now excited for Jurassic movies again. It's just kind of like, oh, okay, well they did one that didn't suck. That's, that's nice. [00:36:33] Speaker A: Yeah. Like again, this movie, I hope if. [00:36:36] Speaker B: I watch the next one, it also doesn't suck. [00:36:39] Speaker A: This movie enforces that. I like dinos. [00:36:41] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:36:41] Speaker A: I like the original Jurassic Park. And you know what? I don't need really any more of either right now. [00:36:47] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:36:48] Speaker A: But hopefully the next time I hear about what the next film is or we see a trailer in like two years, it'll be like thumbs up. Cool. I'll probably be there. [00:36:57] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:36:57] Speaker A: Unless it looks dog shit. [00:36:59] Speaker B: Yeah, just, just like keep Dwayne Johnson out of it. [00:37:03] Speaker A: I don't even. I just can't even think of why he would want to do that. [00:37:07] Speaker B: You never know. [00:37:08] Speaker A: Like, because he won't even make a third Jumanji film and those films make bank already. [00:37:13] Speaker B: But like he's currently did go back to Fast and Furious. He did crawled back. [00:37:18] Speaker A: He also worked on the live action Moana which is officially done production. So like yeah, I don't know of. [00:37:26] Speaker B: Man always goes back. He went back to wwe. [00:37:28] Speaker A: He did again. This is the reason why I think we are glad that of the three big tent poles of this month, this one we were like this is an easy quickie, low stakes. Literally nothing about it screams this is going to be Dominion bad. And it isn't. [00:37:49] Speaker B: Fucking close. [00:37:50] Speaker A: Yeah. The best way that everyone has literally just been describing that we've even had like I think, I think Evan has said this and plenty of other critics in the IFJ basically said like it's not as bad as Dominion or Fallen Kingdom. But that isn't sane much. It's better than those. [00:38:06] Speaker B: Not a glowing compliment. [00:38:08] Speaker A: It's better than those films. And that's all, I mean that's all you can ask for in terms of spoiler stuff. I would say the main villain, the main antagonistic dino, in case you don't know which is called the D Rex. [00:38:22] Speaker B: Yeah, it's the new, the new school, Indominus Rex, I guess inspired by the Xenomorph. Yeah, it looks kind of like a Xenomorph crossed with a T. Rex. [00:38:33] Speaker A: There's some very predator energy in the film. There's even like Marshall Ali has a near death scene that has the energy of come on, shoot me, kill me, kill me now. Like it has that energy and he doesn't die. That was surprising. I thought Ali was an easy. [00:38:48] Speaker B: Like more of them would die and not just the like kind of the Claire. [00:38:55] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:38:56] Speaker A: Again, props to going from making Omar Sy speak entirely in English in the original Jurassic World and then having a fully French character and rebirth. We're growing. The series is growing. Subtitles are not that scary. It does have also one of my favorite jokes in the movie and it's a very low key, not even that funny, but just no French before breakfast. [00:39:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:17] Speaker A: It's so casually said and I'm like something about that is funny just because they have known each other so well. It's like hold On. The sun's too low there. Yeah. The dinos that show up are. You know, we pretty much. If you've seen the trailer, you have seen solid set pieces. Yeah. [00:39:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:39:38] Speaker A: The winged raptor types, I think, are a lot of fun because. Not even. Because they have wings. It is their long necks. [00:39:46] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:39:46] Speaker B: They kind of. They kind of. Their faces are kind of built like the American Godzilla movie. [00:39:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:53] Speaker B: Not the. Not the Zillow. [00:39:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:39:56] Speaker A: Roland Emmerich. [00:39:57] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. [00:40:00] Speaker A: Hank is area. [00:40:01] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:40:01] Speaker A: There's more. [00:40:02] Speaker B: The Hank is area film. [00:40:03] Speaker A: Yeah. Jean Renault and Hank Zarya, the two big leads in that film. Xavier, the boyfriend that I don't like. He's actually. He does get to a point where it's like, I kind of. [00:40:14] Speaker B: Like, he's kind of fun. [00:40:15] Speaker A: I never need to see him again. Yeah. But. Which I will say, it is funny how, like, from Jurassic World, Secret Will Return. It is funny how Jurassic World onwards, they basically either choose a kid to keep for, like, another sequel or two, or they just completely scrap the children and get new kids. Or new characters. [00:40:33] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:40:34] Speaker A: So, like. Yeah. I don't think we'll ever see the Garcia family, Garcia's family in the films again. [00:40:39] Speaker B: Probably not. [00:40:40] Speaker A: But, you know, maybe. I don't know. Like, it depends. Like, I want to see Dolores again. [00:40:44] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:40:45] Speaker A: Rude to not. [00:40:45] Speaker B: Maybe they made it off the island with Dolores. [00:40:47] Speaker A: Yeah. That is. And that is wild. [00:40:50] Speaker B: Maybe Dolores will show up in Camp Cretaceous or something. [00:40:52] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [00:40:54] Speaker B: I don't know the timeline stuff. I don't know how. [00:40:56] Speaker A: I do know that. [00:40:57] Speaker B: Maybe she'll have her own show. [00:40:59] Speaker A: I do know that there's a character in Dominion that does show up in the Camp Cretaceous. Or Chaos theory. There's like, 18 different. That's another thing where it's like, this. [00:41:09] Speaker B: Franchise is, like, bigger than we think it is. [00:41:11] Speaker A: Yeah. It's also the fact that it's like. Yeah. It has the. I would say the Toy Story and energy where it's like. When we talk about these movies in our heads, we talk about. As if there hasn't been any media in this franchise in between movies, when in reality, there's been consistent media for most of them. [00:41:27] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:41:27] Speaker A: Because like, Toy Story is the same way. Even before we got Toy Story 4, like, we basically were getting shorts and, like, specials for years on television. So it's like. And, like, Cars is the same way. Like, it's now, like, just kind of realizing that it's like, yeah. If you're a child now growing up with this, it's not even in a Less cynical way. You're just. They're just getting oversaturated with daido shit. [00:41:49] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:41:49] Speaker A: And they're still liking it, so it makes sense. Like. Yeah. [00:41:52] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:41:53] Speaker A: But, yeah, Jurassic World Rebirth is a three out of five. [00:41:56] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:41:56] Speaker A: Me. [00:41:57] Speaker B: Yeah, Fine. Fun. [00:41:58] Speaker A: Yeah, Fine, fun. [00:42:00] Speaker B: Quick. I mean, I don't know. I don't remember the runtime, but it didn't feel long to me. [00:42:05] Speaker A: This is not an AMC ad, but, like, we both have a list, and this is, like, the perfect kind of a list. [00:42:09] Speaker B: Yeah, it's like, I'm glad I had a list for this. [00:42:12] Speaker A: Yeah, like, slight. You slide. We slid into a Dolby Cinema, like, day before. We got tickets, went right in, saw the movie, and I don't ever have to see it again. [00:42:21] Speaker B: I got my free birthday popcorn and drink. [00:42:24] Speaker A: You did. You did have that. No free Dolores. [00:42:27] Speaker B: No freedom. [00:42:28] Speaker A: Hilariously, we do have a friend that bought the Jurassic World Rebirth popcorn bucket. And it's not a bucket, It's a vessel. [00:42:34] Speaker B: It's a platter. [00:42:35] Speaker A: Yeah, they have. [00:42:36] Speaker B: They have now giant, like, I guess it's a. A T. Rex footprint in mud. Like, molded into, like, plastic mud. It looks like a big, giant charcuterie board. [00:42:46] Speaker A: Yes, it does. And it's funny because we went to her birthday party after she saw that movie and she didn't know where else to put it, so she just put it next to her fireplace. [00:42:56] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:42:56] Speaker B: It's right by the mantle. [00:42:57] Speaker A: A giant plastic fossil. [00:42:59] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:43:01] Speaker A: But, yeah, this Jurassic World Rebirth, if you've been kind of on the fence of it and you liked. I mean, even if you like Dominion. [00:43:09] Speaker B: If you like dinosaurs, like, go check it out. It's pretty good dinosaur shit. [00:43:12] Speaker A: Do you like fun? Do you like dinos? [00:43:14] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:43:15] Speaker B: It's not gonna win you over if you've never really cared about this franchise. [00:43:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:19] Speaker B: It's also probably not gonna, like, restore all your hope in the franchise if you've fallen away from it. But, like, it's just kind of a fun time. [00:43:27] Speaker A: Of all three of the big blockbuster Temple films in July, we expected this one to be the weakest for us. And I'm hoping that that stays the case by the end of July. [00:43:37] Speaker B: Yeah, that'd be a good thing. [00:43:38] Speaker A: But, yeah, by the time this is coming out, in case you don't know, at the end of this week, we're gonna have our Superman sequels episodes. [00:43:46] Speaker B: Yes. [00:43:47] Speaker A: That was a lot of fun to record, I promise, Andy, I didn't watch every single Superman film. And I didn't. And honestly, good boy. As time has gone on. I have been like, that's kind of good, because I just. I don't. I can sleep without watching Superman movie. I don't need. I don't need that as a sleep aid. [00:44:06] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:44:07] Speaker A: But, yeah, so we have the Superman sequels coming out this weekend. And then, you know, two weeks from now, we have our Fantastic Four trilogy. [00:44:15] Speaker B: And Honor of the Capey July. [00:44:18] Speaker A: Yeah. And we're excited. We might, if we feel like. [00:44:22] Speaker B: If a Superman review could probably do a Superman review. I mean, we're not Fantastic Four. [00:44:27] Speaker A: We probably will, too. I mean, because I don't think either one of those films. Either one of those films. Especially how they talk about, well, the Fantastic Four we're gonna see again in a year. It's already been kind of confirmed. So, like, whatever A Fantastic Four 2 looks like in this universe, we have no fucking idea. Until the other event, until the Avengers films come out, we don't know. [00:44:47] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:44:47] Speaker A: And then with Superman, I mean, we're literally getting Supergirl next year. So, like, Gunn has basically said, like, it's a possibility that we'll see Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman together at some point in this universe, but there's no set date. [00:45:02] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:45:03] Speaker B: A rush. [00:45:04] Speaker A: So, like, we don't know what trilogies on either side of those look like. And to be honest, we also really don't care. As long as they're fucking good. [00:45:11] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:45:12] Speaker A: As long as they're good and fun. But, yeah. So, yeah, tune in soon at the end of this week for the Superman sequels episode as well as our possible quickie on Superman. But as always, I'm Logan Silwash. [00:45:23] Speaker B: And I'm Andy Carr. [00:45:23] Speaker A: Thank you so much for listening. Bye.